我有個side project，就是跟國際學生們聊他們在疫情下的生活規劃和心態。這讓我能更了解年輕人（發現他們遠比我當年來得更成熟），同時也給他們一個機會讓世界好好聽聽他們的故事。這集是用英文交談（我們的節目是一集中文一集英文交叉播出），以下是英文介紹，歡迎收聽！
Our latest episode of Between Here and There is up! This time I talk to a UC Berkeley biochem major stuck at home and on Zoom class hell. But what I found particularly interesting was how he talked about not feeling like he was doing enough, when in fact he was doing way too much. Hence the title The Art of 瞎忙. Take a listen!
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